Mr. SHIJU JOHN
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I am posting the replies I got and my understanding for general benefit:
The most important thing is to resolve the pressure gradients and the stretching will help to place larger amount of panels close to the leading and trailing edges
where we expect high pressure gradients. The best way to evaluate the required mesh size is to run several sizes and observe the changes in the pressure.
Michal Orych
Hi Michal,
Thankyou. As I understand from your advise and the manuals, the best way to do it should be:1. To apply stretch function 5 (hyperbolic with both ends specified) so that there are larger amount of panels close to LE and TE.2. For a fixed number of panels, vary the starting panel size and end panel size (df, lf) and observe the changes in pressure. Choose an optimum combination for best results. -
Hi,
reg 1. I found the answer. i am able to see the mesh panels.
pls throw light on 2.
Thankyou
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Hi,
1. Is there an option to view the panels on the hull mesh as well as the free surface?
2. Is it best to use hyperbolic stretch function 5 (tangent with 2 ends specified) for ship hulls? What about fins/rudders? In the case of a submarine, the sail is a large appendage. What stretch function should be suitable here?
Regards,
Shiju John
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How do we optimise the panel size in shipflow?
Before running XPAN, i tried to vary the number of panels, etc. as we normally optimise the panel size for good results; but couldnt find an option.
Pls help.
Regards,
Shiju John
Scientist, DRDO
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So far I have not used the propulsion calculations. But I am heading into it soon.
I tried using XPAN to get the velocity contours.
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Hi,
When you run XPAN for a deep submerged submarine, the resistance should be zero. (D'Alembert's paradox)
What is this basic resistance coeff that XPAN gives for deep submerged submarine? Is it the pressure coeff or any residual error?
Basic model resistance coefficient (force/0.5*density*Sref*U*U)
CXPI -0.000833
CYPI 0
CZPI 0.0022034
Pls explain.
Regards,
Shiju John
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Thankyou.
It worked.
Regards,
Shiju John
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I have modified the submarine offset file off_sub for my design.
I am trying to run xpan it through SHIPFLOW GUI using this offset.
First, I imported the offset file. The 3D view shows my sub as ok.
But, on running i am getting an error message as follows:
***ERROR (401) - FILE COULD NOT BE OPENED
SYSTEM DEPENDENT ERROR STATUS NUMBER = 29
LOGICAL UNIT = 4
FILENAME = ../off_sub
xferrm: Error
Pls help.
I am attaching the fdb file for reference.trial1.fdb -
Hi Maasch,
Very encouraging to see your mail.
Thankyou.
I am going through these files.
Hope to start working once initial hull form is finalised.
Regards,
Shiju John
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Thankyou Maasch,
"3. Most likely not possible! As far as I know shipflow does not offer such code."I have seen a couple of published papers in which maneuvering of surface ships were carried out using SHIPFLOW. (linear derivatives of velocity and accelerations)So I hope there should be a method to extend it to submarines."5. In the ExamplesManual which comes with the shipflow software you can find some more detailed descriptions with regard to submarines, such as offset files and command files. If you don't have the ExamplesManual available I can surely upload it here."Please upload the examples file. It would be very helpful.And finally, ya it seems very challenging. We also have PARAMARINE here which is a lot easier for submarines.But I hope I can crack it with SHIPFLOW as well.Thanks a lot for your encouraging reply.Shiju JohnScientist, DRDOM.Tech Scholar, IIT Madras -
I am trying to design a submarine as part of my Masters project.
My Prof. has suggested me to try using SHIPFLOW.
Basically, I would like to use SHIPFLOW for the following:
1. Resistance estimation of Submarine in deep submerged condition.
2. Self Propulsion Tests (using Pump-Jet propulsor) in deep submerged condition.
3. Maneuverability (Straight line tests and Rotating Arm) of Submarine
Please advice if its possible to do such simulations in SHIPFLOW. Is it possible to switch off the free surface effects?
Is there a separate module for maneuvering?
Regards,
Shiju John
Pongo execution failure
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I am using SHIPFLOW software for analyzing an undrwater body.
What does it mean by this error message:
Error: Pongo execution failed, command was: C:\FLOWTECH\SHIPFLOW5.1.00-x86_64-rc9145\bin\..\\bin/xpongo config
Pls advice.
Thanks
Shiju John